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Final Election Predictions: Which States Will Legalize Cannabis Today?

November 1, 2016
A voter is reflected in the glass frame of a poster while casting a ballot during early voting ahead of next week's general election in Atlanta, Tuesday, Nov. 1, 2016. Early voting, via mail or in-person, is underway in 37 states. In all, more than 46 million people, or as much as 40 percent of the electorate, are expected to vote before Election Day, Nov. 8. (AP Photo/David Goldman)
Note: This story was updated on Monday, November 7. 

One day before election day, cannabis legalization races are tightening in all nine states with the topic on the ballot. In California and Florida, early exuberance has given way to strong, steady leads, while campaigns in Arizona and Massachusetts could win or lose by the slightest margins.

One week is an eternity in politics—this week especially. There are millions of dollars in television ads still yet to run. And remember: Undecided voters on initiatives that call for change, like legalization, tend ultimately to go against change. They see it as the safer vote. To account for this, backers of legalization initiatives like to go into election day with at least a solid, 55 percent poll number. Few measures at the moment have such a comfortable lead.

In 2016, the fate of legalization rests on whether younger voters show up. Survey after survey has documented the massive generational split on legalization. The more voters under 65 turn out, the greater the likelihood of passage. That’s the whole ballgame. The generation gap is so great, it will make the difference between winning and losing in most states.

Wagering on political elections is illegal in the United States. (Why? See this explainer at Bloomberg View.) So we’ll present our odds in the form of a “chance of passage,” which, ahem, in no way resembles the data-wonk calculations made by Nate Silver and the crew over at FiveThirtyEight. Our calculations come from a close reading of each race; it’s just to let you know which way we think the wind is blowing.

 

Our best, very conservative, predictions:

These adult use states will pass: California, Massachusetts, Maine, Nevada

These adult use states will not: Arizona

This medical state will pass: Florida

These medical states will not: Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota

 

Arizona: Adult Use. Chance of passage: 49%

What a weird, wild race. You never disappoint, dear Arizona, you Florida-of-the-West. The contest over adult legalization has featured large anti-legalization donations from the Discount Tire Store empire, fentanyl manufacturer Insys Therapeutics, a wine-wholesalers association, and U-Haul. (Why U-Haul? Your guess is as good as ours.) That money has purchased airtime for ads so misleading that Colorado legislators recently demanded that Arizonans for Responsible Drug Policy pull the commercials and stop slandering Colorado with falsehoods and lies.

Meanwhile, legalization advocates have called up a deep bench of celebrities to support their cause. Susan Sarandon, former Chicago Bears quarterback Jim McMahon, US Rep. Raul Grijalva, and others have come out for Prop. 205. And they’ve hit back with ads exposing the falsehoods of their opponents’ campaign, like this one:

Result? Three polls taken during the past three weeks have come up with very different results. An Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll—probably the most reliable—has 50.4 percent of voters approving Prop. 205, with 41.6 percent opposing, and 8 percent undecided. HighGround Public Affairs found 50 percent supporting, 45 percent opposing, 5 percent undecided. Data Orbital found 44 percent in favor, 45 percent opposed, 9 percent undecided. At this point it’s nearly a toss-up, but we’re a bit pessimistic based on the bare-knuckle tactics of the opposition and the state’s historically deep conservative bent.

 

Arkansas: Medical Marijuana. Chance of passage: 45%

Arkansas has been a struggle from the start. The state’s medical cannabis legalization advocates couldn’t come together to support a single initiative, so they put two very, very similar measures on the November ballot, Issue 6 and Issue 7. Then the Arkansas Supreme Court declared Issue 7 null and void two weeks prior to the election. So citizens are still casting votes for and against both measures (the ballots had already been printed), with October polls finding little favor for either. Support for both measures in October topped out in the low to mid-40s, with opposition running a strong 50 to 53 percent against both issues. Five to 7 percent of voters were undecided.

Update Nov. 7: A new poll has moved our estimate. The University of Arkansas’ annual Arkansas Poll, traditionally one of the state’s most comprehensive and well-grounded surveys, released numbers on Nov. 3 that indicate a late surge for Issue 6, the MMJ amendment. Among most likely voters, Issue 6 saw favor with 49 percent of those surveyed, with 47 percent opposed and 4 percent undecided.

So we’re saying Issue 6 has a chance.

 

California: Adult Use. Chance of passage: 94%

California’s Proposition 64 started strong and has remained steady most of the  year, with a bit of an expected dip in support as the election nears. “The numbers have been favorable, consistent, and exactly where we expected and wanted to be at this point,” Prop. 64 spokesman Jason Kinney told the Los Angeles Times last week. Months ago, polls showed upward of 70 percent support for the idea of legalization. As voters learned more about the actual language of the proposition, those numbers dipped. Some turned against the measure as they considered the issue more seriously, while a few cannabis supporters soured on the fine details of Prop 64.

For such an important race, California has been relatively quiet. Prop. 64 advocates have far outstripped their opponents when it comes to fundraising, and there’s no charismatic leader standing up against the measure, aside from the ever-reliable Kevin Sabet and a law enforcement lobbyist in Sacramento.

The latest Public Policy Institute of California poll showed Prop. 64 still going strong with likely voters: 55 percent support, 38 percent opposition, and 6 percent undecided. If you add every last one of the undecideds to the opposition, you still only get 44 percent. Something major would have to happen between now and Nov. 8 to undermine legalization in California.

Update Nov. 7: Since late October, when this article was originally published, we’ve increased our confidence in the passage of Prop. 64. If it goes down to defeat, the polling industry should scrape its current methods and start over.

Florida: Medical Marijuana. Chance of passage: 87%

All hail Florida, land where titans clash. In this rematch of 2014’s medical marijuana campaign (in which legalization advocates netted 57 percent of the vote but still lost, because constitutional amendments in Florida require 60.1 percent approval), Florida attorney John Morgan has once again pitted his millions against the combined financial muscle of Sheldon Adelson, Mel Sembler, and Publix heiress Carol Jenkins Barnett.

This year, it looks like Morgan and his allies will take the prize. Recent polls have put support for Amendment 2 at 69 percent, 71 percent, 73 percent, and 77 percent—well above the 60 percent threshold, regardless of the pollster.

The only thing that could get in the way of medical marijuana’s approval is a massive dip in voter turnout among people under 65. Here, as in other states, the generation gap is enormous. The more young people who vote, the greater the chances are of Amendment 2 sailing to victory.

 

Maine: Adult Use. Chance of passage: 65%

Maine’s adult-use legalization measure, Question 1, enjoyed a 15-point advantage in September polling. That lead has shrunk to 9 points (50 percent favoring, 41 percent opposing), with 9 percent of voters still undecided.

As Leafly’s chief Maine correspondent Crash Barry has noted, the strongest support is coming from southern and coastal residents, and from younger voters under 50. In more rural, conservative districts, Question 1 pulls only a 46 percent approval rating. As in other states, the age gap is enormous. Nearly 70 percent of the 18-to-34 age group favors legalization, while only 35 percent of those 65 and older plan on voting yes.

Maine and California are separated by a wide swath of continent, but they both contain a small, committed core of cannabis supporters vehemently opposing their state’s legalization measure. In Maine, that opposition has coalesced around the idea of outside “big marijuana” forces driving out local growers, and around the fear that Question 1 could interfere with current patient access to medical cannabis. (Crash explored both issues in his most recent piece for Leafly.)

Which way will Mainers go? They’re an ornery, independent bunch. But I’m betting they’ll tilt in favor of legalization. Any measure that allows Mainers a greater measure of personal freedom—and tells the federal government to go shag a duck—stands a good chance of gaining their vote.

 

Massachusetts: Adult Use. Chance of passage: 53%

Voters in Massachusetts abruptly flipped a couple months ago. Early summer polling had that state’s adult-use measure, Question 4, trailing badly. By October, those numbers turned and ran in the other direction, with 55 percent of voters approving and 40 percent against. The most recent survey, conducted last week, showed Question 4 with a slimmer lead, 49 percent to 42 percent. Those two polls were taken by separate organizations, so there’s a bit of an apples-to-oranges issue. But still, a 15 percent lead shrinking to 7 within a week is pretty dramatic.

Now, in the home stretch, Question 4’s opponents are benefitting from an influx of money from big donors. Casino magnate Sheldon Adelson gave $1 million to the Campaign for a Safe and Healthy Massachusetts; a few days later the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston followed up with an $850,000 donation.

That money will buy a lot of ad time for prohibitionist ads like this one, which is running around the state.

Money matters in all campaigns, of course. But it’s especially important in Massachusetts.

The archdiocese money brought to mind something a Yes on 4 campaign official told me back in May. “Almost all ballot questions in Massachusetts are won by the side with the most money,” he said. And church money can be especially powerful. In 2012, a death-with-dignity issue that was neck-and-neck went down after the Catholic church helped raise millions of dollars to defeat it. “That was a game-changing amount of money,” he said.

Will the one-two punch of the Adelson-Archdiocese money prove to be a game-changing amount? Possibly. But this time the pro-legalization forces have their own war chest built up. As of Oct. 20, the Yes on 4 campaign had raised $6.3 million, to the $2.8 million banked by opponents. And the surprising endorsement of the staid Boston Globe, which backed Question 4 last week, could prove to be a game-changer of its own.

Update Nov. 7: A recent WNEU Polling Institute statewide survey (Oct. 23 – Nov. 2) finds Question 4 trending up among likely voters. 61 percent of likely voters surveyed support Question 4, with 34 percent opposing and 5 percent undecided. That’s a major shift from one month earlier, when the same survey found 52 percent support and 42 percent opposition among likely voters. As late as last Friday were holding to our prediction that Question 4 would not pass. Now, on Monday afternoon, we’re going against Gandalf on Question 4 and saying THIS SHALL PASS. Why? The closer we draw to election day, the smaller looms the late-money contributions of Sheldon Adelson ($1 million) and the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston ($850,000). That cash can only buy more airtime for television ads that are not working. Do you hear us, Kevin’s MomIt’s not working. 

Check out these incredibly telling numbers. The WNEU Polling Institute survey drilled down into their data and found that 60 percent of voters who do not have children under the age of 18 support legalization. And they found that 63 percent of parents with children under the age of 18 support legalization. In other words: Parents with kids under 18 actually show stronger support for legalization than voters without young kids. That is a powerful piece of data. And that’s what ultimately moved our prediction from “reject” to “approve.”

 

Montana: Medical Marijuana. Chance of passage: 30%.

What a difference 12 years makes. More than 60 percent of Montanans legalized medical cannabis back in 2004. But in 2011, when the number of medical cardholders skyrocketed and dispensaries proliferated, many residents questioned the legitimacy of the system. “I think that a real initiative on medical marijuana would have a chance in Montana,” political scientist Craig Wilson told the Missoulian. “But this one is tainted by the past and also the extent to which Steve Zabawa”—founder of the anti-drug group Safe Montana—“and his folks have weighed in against it.”

If Initiative 182 fails, Montana will still retain an extremely minimal and strict medical cannabis system, one that bans storefront dispensaries and limits caregivers to serving three patients apiece. Read Leafly correspondent Lynsey G’s firsthand report on the effects of that on Montana patients, here.

The latest October polls have 51 percent of Montana voters opposing the initiative, with only 44 percent favoring, and 5 percent undecided. That Lee Newspapers poll was strongly sourced, polling more than 1,000 registered voters in a sparsely populated state. A slight majority of Democrats favor the initiative, but an overwhelming 72 percent of Republicans oppose it. And in Montana, Republicans run the show.

 

Nevada: Adult Use. Chance of passage: 70%

Here’s the thing about Nevada. Nobody can really come up with a good reason why cannabis should not be legalized and regulated here. Even the opposition has a hard time coming up with a decent argument. The home page for Nevadans for Responsible Drug Policy, the group fighting Question 2, posits “a loss of Nevada jobs” with legalization. Which is a curious claim, given that every adult-legal state has added thousands of documented jobs. The group quotes Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper calling legalization a “bad idea,” but that was four years ago. Hickenlooper more recently has admitted that when it comes to legalization, “it’s beginning to look like it might work.” A few days ago on 60 Minutes, the worst he could say about it was to offer this advice: “I urge caution.”

Nevadans seem to realize that they can regulate cannabis just as well as they’ve regulated other pieces of polarizing adult commerce. Marijuana is just another part of the portfolio. In early autumn, one poll here had legalization passing by a whopping 57 percent to 33 percent. A more conservative survey, taken by KTNV News/Rasmussen Reports, recorded a 50–41 split in July, and used similar questions to find that approved had moved to 53 percent in favor, 39 percent opposed in mid-September.

Where do things sit now? Hard to say. Nobody’s got reliable polling data from late October, when local casino owner Sheldon Adelson kicked $2 million into the coffers of the anti-legalization campaign. Adelson, who made his fortune peddling alcohol and dice in the gaming halls of Las Vegas, has made it his personal mission to defeat cannabis legalization—and he’s doubled down on his home state, contributing twice as much in Nevada as he’s given to prohibitionists in Massachusetts. As of Nov. 1, though, FCC records show no television commercial bookings by any of the known groups opposing Question 2.

 

North Dakota: Medical Marijuana. Chance of passage: 50%

Nobody knows. Seriously. Nobody has a clue about what the voters of North Dakota think about Measure 5, the medical marijuana initiative on the November ballot. The last poll taken in this state found that North Dakotans favored the idea of medical marijuana, 47 percent to 41 percent. But that was two years ago.

Why not turn to the local press for coverage? We tried that. We turned up this piece from the Bismarck Tribune. The headline says it all: “Voters to determine right to use medical marijuana.” Yep. They sure will.

Voters, decide. Prognosticators, flip a coin.

Lead Image: David Goldman/AP

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Leafly Senior Editor Bruce Barcott oversees news, investigations, and feature projects. He is a Guggenheim Fellow and author of Weed the People: The Future of Legal Marijuana in America.

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  • Lukas Hurysek

    great article!

  • Xavier Thibaudon

    Hoping spreads like wildfire!

  • Matt

    I voted yes in Maine. Can reason maintain it’s lead over fear for 6 more days? It’s gonna be too close for my comfort. The lying liars are in full lying mode. I have heard enough intellectual dishonesty from the no campaign to last a lifetime.

    • Craig Slist

      It’s the same here in Massachusetts. The “no” campaign has no qualms with using any despicable tactic they can, including emotional manipulation and flat-out lying.

    • Richard Wilson

      They never stop manufacturing fake statistics, outright lies and fairy tale nonsense.

    • Geoff Jacobs

      Well, Matt, I can tell you this… My brother was a well known and successful attorney in the Augusta area, employed by the State and the National Guard. He was a regular user of Cannabis, as was nearly every person in his law firm in public practice and private practice. And, some of these attorneys were in the Guard with him?! The problem was, that THEY were unethical and involved in lots of shady shit and he exposed them. He was blackballed.
      My brother is no longer living and I can’t get any information form ANY law enforcement agency in that state?! Does THAT tell you how dishonest and unethical these Maine dickweeds are??

  • Craig Slist

    Massachusetts here.

    I think you are selling the “Yes on 4” campaign in my state short. Massachusetts has a recent history of voting in favor of marijuana ballot questions every single time, and often by larger margins than the polls suggest. Since 2014, there have been 10 major polls, and 8 of them have found enough support to win. It is my belief that the people of Massachusetts will vote to legalize Marijuana in 2016.

    • massman

      I hope you’re right Craig. They’re already trying to change the bill before it even passes. I’ve lived in Massachusetts 44 years, and have never been so disgusted with our politicians.

      • Craig Slist

        For what it’s worth, a new poll that just came out has “yes” with a 27-point lead.

        http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/marijuana_legalization_in_mass.html

        • Bruce Barcott

          Thanks for your comments, Craig. See the updated article above. The WNE poll and a couple other factors caused me to move our Question 4 prediction from “reject” to “approve.” These predictions have nothing to do with my, or Leafly’s, opinion about the merits of the initiatives themselves. We’re just trying to sort through all available data to give readers our most honest predictions in each state.

    • Gizmo05

      I already voted yes in Massachusetts and have enough faith it will pass.

  • Vegas Noonan

    Do people acutally think they are voting to allow marijuana? Reality check for you guys its here & here to stay growing at an alarming rate. The vote to legalize it is just a vote to regulate & heavily tax an industry that already thrives in your state. Dont see why anyone would be against creating jobs, making a lot of tax $, freeing up our judicial system & hurting the illegal trade of the drug.

    • Kathleen Ferguson

      I be growing it. Don’t know why some feathers are being ruffled about it. Still can’t wrap my head around why “SOME” people think ALCOHOL is ok when there is definite proof of addiction and deaths whereas pot is non addictive and so far there have been no deaths surrounding pot.

    • christopher rose

      Thumbs up!

    • christopher rose

      Been telling people the same thing!!!….”Legal” just means you want pension sucking bureaucrats to regulate the hell out of something and fix which is not broke.
      I see the growth of something through the will of the people to govern themselves ….and currently we have managed quite well.
      Can you really look around in California and see any Draconian enforcement where it’s not needed ( true criminals) ???
      If Prop 64 passes….be prepared for the cops to make a judgement call (on their side) if your driving high….to your detriment.
      If you didn’t notice the fine print on growing permits per water allocation & bar code tags on each plant…let me simplify it ….higher product costs…limited production.

      Think about how many people the government will need to inspect all those bar coded plants and how many people will end up growing illegally because they can’t get a permit…all because you fell for a buzz word “Legal” ….enough government hand holding!

    • fatslap

      Been telling people the same thing!!!….”Legal” just means you want
      pension sucking bureaucrats to regulate the hell out of something and
      fix which is not broke.

      I see the growth of something through the will of the people to govern themselves ….and currently we have managed quite well.

      Can you really look around in California and see any Draconian enforcement where it’s not needed ( true criminals) ???

      If Prop 64 passes….be prepared for the cops to make a judgement call
      (on their side) if your driving high….to your detriment.

      If you didn’t notice the fine print on growing permits per water
      allocation & bar code tags on each plant…let me simplify it
      ….higher product costs…limited production.

      Think about how many people the government will need to inspect all
      those bar coded plants and how many people will end up growing illegally
      because they can’t get a permit…all because you fell for a buzz word
      “Legal” ….enough government hand holding!

  • Excuse me

    I am really glad to hear California will almost certainly pass. The National forests in Humboldt County, and Los Padres National Forest–areas I have been familiar with–have been clandestine growing areas that not only supplied weed, but brought ecological damage as well. In Santa Barbara’s Los Padres National park, a 2009 fire burned more than 136 square miles was sparked by a cooking fire started by the hirelings of a Mexican drug cartel. The La Brea fire that burned over 84,000 acres was also thought to be started at a Mexican gang’s grow operation. Hopefully, the impetus to set set up shop in California’s National Forests will be reduced with a legal vote.

  • Steve

    The reason in Arizona you have u haul lobbying against adult use is because u haul is the preferred choice in transportation for smuggling so how bad do you think business for u haul would be if pot we’re legally obtained it’s not just the cartels losing out but big businesses profiting off of the illegal drug trade too smh

    • Ian Mackenzie

      WTF another reason not to use Uhaul

      • Kathleen Ferguson

        I’ve used Penske truck.

  • Matt Leow

    That Mason Dixon poll in MT is deeply flawed. From that same Missoulian article link to in this article….
    Those in the I-182 campaign say that the majority of voters remain on their side. The campaign’s own poll, conducted by Colorado-based Harstad Strategic Research, had 59 percent in favor of the measure, with 32 percent against and 9 percent undecided.

    Paul Harstad of Harstad Strategic Research chalked the difference in poll results up to the questions asked.

    “The wording in the Mason-Dixon poll is biased and dramatically oversimplified, and there’s no resemblance to the ballot summary that will be available to all voters,” Harstad said.

    Mason-Dixon Polling and Research conducted the Lee Newspapers poll with a brief question: “Ballot initiative I-182 would allow for wide use of medical marijuana. If you were voting today, would you vote … .”

    • Bruce Barcott

      Thanks for pointing this out, Matt. I went back and re-analyzed the articles and data available. I agree that the Mason-Dixon wording is too pushy, but it didn’t strike me as so biased as to render the poll worthless. The Harstad Strategic poll is, as far as I can tell, unavailable to anyone outside the I-182 campaign, so I have no way of knowing who they asked or what they asked. In Massachusetts, a new poll moved our prediction from “reject” to “approve,” but I can’t say we came to the same conclusion about Montana. I hope we’re proven wrong.

  • icebrotha

    Excellent article.

  • doris grierson

    I would love to vote yes as I cant take medical meds so ths would be a life saver for me. doris grierson

    • ThomasXxs

      You may want to re-think your concept of “medical meds”. All medicines are composed of chemicals, some are directly from plants like opium/morphine from poppies and THC from marijuana, and others are synthesized by chemists. But even synthetics typically start from a variety of chemical “feedstocks”, obtained from plants, minerals, and especially from petroleum products (oil, gas, coal) which may sound bad to some, but in reality these are magnificent sources of useful organic building blocks. Oil is the concentrated result of massive amounts of small living things (algae, plankton, etc) from certain prehistoric periods of extreme heat, mass die-offs and anoxic areas in the oceans. Don’t let possibly erroneous notions about what is “natural” and what is not, prevent you from using certain medicines.

      • Kathleen Ferguson

        kk

  • Ian Mackenzie

    Florida here already voted yes, the cannabis they want to sell us is low THC , what i call mexican dirt weed but it’s a baby step in the right direction

  • Elijah

    I wish they would legalize it in iowa look how much money it’s making

    • Jeffrey Joel Gibson

      IOWA?!? are you insane? Missouri will get it first..and even then you guys in Iowa seem to be very conservative.

  • 24 Hour Man

    In Mass we have the catholic church which is TAX EXEMPT throwing $850,000 to the media which could have gone to feed and house the homeless….VOTE YES ON QUESTION FOUR!

  • Paul Wasserman

    I voted early in Massachusetts and I voted YES on legalizing recreational marijuana.

  • Kathleen Ferguson

    As of 11/04/16 Arizona’s stats are: 73% for marijuana legalization and 27% against. Wondering how this journalist got his information. We did a Televised vote. I’m confused. I also know there are at “LEAST” 90,000 people with medical cards. I’m thinking pot will be legalized here, especially after the false advertisement coming from Colorado.

    • TweetyBird

      A lot of people believe that false advertising. They don’t realize it’s legal to make up lie after lie and state it as if it’s a fact. They also pay no attention to who is paying for these misleading ads.

      Already voted yes on Prop 205 two weeks ago, but I really don’t expect it to pass. Hope I’m wrong.

      • Geoff Jacobs

        Same reason they vote for Hillary!

      • Kathleen Ferguson

        I was watching Channel 3 or 10 news just a couple of days before I read this article-during the newscast they asked people to either vote yes or no for legalization during the broadcast. That’s where I got the stats. It was a live, on air vote. That wasn’t made up as I voted during the news cast. 73% for and 27% against. I voted yes on 205 and 206. It’s going to pass. POSITIVE THOUGHTS!!!

  • KootMed

    I strongly disagree with your conclusions on the Montana Medical Marijuana Initiative I-182. The Lee
    Newspapers poll you refer to was extremely biased in the manor in
    which it framed the question to voters and is therefore a poor
    indicator. I would expect much better reporting of the truth/facts from
    Leafly!

  • Coffeeluver

    I’ll be voting yes in CA.

  • Mr.&Mrs.F

    Really, just the thought that the people who have take tens of millions and more making marijuana illegal, are, in some states now making tens of millions taxing it. And the UNIVERSE, or GOD, GAVE us the plant for FREE!!!!! Now who has a problem?

  • Ken Anderson

    Wow I really feel like the Mass ad is like falling backwards. The campaign is operating on fear mongering as I suspect that is all the argument that they have left to work with. I am surprised they haven’t inserted a couple of excerpts from Refer Madness! LOL

  • Geoff Jacobs

    You know, this is 2016. You would honestly think that the idiots that believed all of that Reefer Madness BS would be dead and gone?! You would think that the knuckleheads that are still living and that still believe that crap would have lived through Woodstock and the 60’s and 70’s and witnessed the fact that Cannabis is NOT a killer drug and no one has died, addicted to it?! And, you would THINK they have researched the reasons why Cannabis is actually listed as a Class 1 drug in the first place and where the term “Marijuana” came from?
    But, noooooooooooooooo. They’ve been sitting on their lazy bums, believing all this time that it is a “gateway drug” and addicting and all of that BS.

    • Philip Cammarano

      people are lazy as all shit man do you not realize that at any age!

    • Jeffrey Joel Gibson

      I don’t know Nancy said it was bad for me LOL

      • PotsterBoy

        You beat me to it.

    • PotsterBoy

      The lying years of Nixon made it’s impact on those that believe the US Government when it communicates to it’s citizens.
      Few people under 60 believe the US government anymore.

    • Mr.&Mrs.F

      The leaders of the country and media have the masses, a large percentage of the population; believing that a man who was murdered by corrupt politicians thousands of years ago is going to come back and correct all the tax law and gun legislation and money manipulation LAWS that have the planet’s energy in handcuffs; energy being in large part, the potential of a group effort of humans. CLEARLY, the current practice of taxing the masses to get the money needed to start world wars thousands of miles away and say “we’re fighting terrorism in America” while a small group of Americans are taking millions of dollars to support military and religious enemies of this country UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE GANG in this country who claims to be protecting and serving the needs of the people in this country. Yes, we’re free alright; free to be pushed around and robbed, or free to take a stand; what do we do? Scream about how tough we are as wimps and liars and criminals steal our freedom for their own freedom; it’s competitive capitalistic international ‘freedom’ laced with insanity and greed and arrogance and vanity and pride; in the name of Jesus, the flag, and the constitution; and traditional religion on the same old worn out groove of Spartan ignorance. Yea, we’re tough alright, when it comes to fighting over who’s dumber. People need to grow up. People need brain stimulation. People are trained to resist to the type of brain stimulation they need; people can’t see what they need until it too late. People are STILL making the exact same mistakes people made throughout ALL of recorded history; it’s called leadership; we the people do not have a decent leader, and those who are decent leaders, are under attack of the insane. Clintons are most certainly PSYCHIATRIC CASES ON A GRAND SCALE. If you can’t see this; do’t say anything okay; you can’t defend clintons; there is no defense for the insane. Trump is no angel, but he is screaming out loud proud criminally insane either. And another ‘thing’ is FOR SURE; I know exactly and clearly what I am talking about; snap your fingers and come out of the trance; we need action, not talk; clintons are cancer; Trump is just a passing cold; and when the fever has passed, we as a country will be in a better place for a while; instead of dead in the rubble. clintons have NO PROBLEM with bombing American cities, you can be sure of that; of course they will lie about what they care about, that is what they do; lie; they only about clintons; all others are expendable, Abedin and wiener and ryan for example. WHO on this planet has a ‘god given gun backed right’ to tell millions of others “you can’t use that plant!” There is a national thinking process disconnect in existence.

  • noah vail

    having been an Arizonan all my life (76 ) i can assure all of you that there is nothing so hated and feared by our red state legislature than education…hell, we’re fighting Arkansas and Mississippi to be the worst state in the union ….

    • ablejoy

      How true voted yes on 205 education sucks in az

  • Philip Cammarano

    I Voted yes and 182 in montana and am seeing that we only have a 30% chance to pass that is despicable! I thankfully went to growing my own as I had to but the amount I am growing for the amount it cost me is redicilous I know over time I will recover my investment in what I spent but it is still not available as I need it to be! I do not want to make my own bho but I will be forced to.This is most effective for my chronic pain in the service ptsd and assorted other pains from brain injurys and dain bamage to assorted pains and ills from aging! I can get all the opiates and pysche meds from the va I want! Pysche meds had me where I could not walk 10 feet unassisted by furniture or someone! I am off those and doing fine as far as attitude and depression according to my gf-who better to judge my temperament I credit cannabis with keeping me from joining the 22 veterans a day who commit suicide because if this had not worked I surely would be amongst them all! May they rip!

  • Jeffrey Joel Gibson

    well unfortunatly the coalitions in Missouri dropped the ball big time. No vote this year and now we sit on the sideline and watch for 2 more years…

  • AAMCO

    Arizona and Mass need to pass and Cali and Nevada need to wait,

    all the states for medical need to pass no matter how shitty the bill/amendment

  • Mr.&Mrs.F

    If I had any say in the matter, I would be taking money back from the “servants” 110% of what they have paid themselves to make GOD’s garden plant FOUNDATION illegal; and literally TORTURE people over a plant; psychologically, economically, morally, and in total disregard of ethical integrity. As we all know, or should know, the FAMILY of the subject plant is, one the most widely usable plants on the planet. Oil might be first in adaptability, cotton ranks high (I forget this ranking profile of usability for resources and assets), but regardless, hemp oil and fiber, alone, there are, were; in the 1950’s, over 3,500 industrial uses; a renewable resource, a prolific resource. Annually, hemp and THC should topple most sales charts; perhaps a trillion dollars per year industry. Just think of all the corruption and paper pushing legalized deception and grand larceny that can take place once “marijuana” is totally ‘legalized.’ (That opportunity to rape the money pools with words and numbers on paper should attract criminal wanna’ be’s like flies and vultures to a dead skunk.) The universe gave us the plant for free; so that doesn’t mean 3% of the population could/should become multi-billionaires from option trading on THC futures and ETF’s right? We need to grow up. Think, paper, clothes, shoes, FOOD, and brake pads on vehicles; for quick examples; paper alone is how many 100’s of millions $$$’s annually? And yes, brake pads; hemp compacted and pressed into the baking process in the manufacturing of car and truck etc. BRAKE PADS; to reduce production costs, AND reduce toxic dust (compared to carbon based brake pads), and improve effectiveness and longevity of the brakes. No job loss here. And of course, MEDICINE. (Believe me, I am like a volcano, I do NOT do like to feel my own tremors; because I have erupted before; THC calms the fluctuations of the energy flow that leads to the tremors; external forces pile up faster than I can resolve the conflicts I didn’t start.) My opposition in life is authority figure FAKES; arrogant proud men who think violence resolves everything; for money and religious uses. I do not know anyone who has any authority over me, but you know what? Several people on the payroll of the ‘government’ have been to my house and places of employment, my parents house, and overhead in hovering helicopters; warning me, and face to face telling me to “shut up and back off” about a LOT of things that this society is still afraid to learn; about; or admit. Placing restraints etc. with all the negative things some people do about this family of plants; what a Twilight Zone story that could be. And the story crawls and stomps around the same old worn out groove of denial and fear of the unexplored realms of human potential.

  • howard buck

    I live in calif. voted no the taxes are to high if it passes I will be paying about $100.00 a month to the city, state and county.Thats a rip off

  • Mr.&Mrs.F

    I am convinced that the nation’s ‘education” system is a brainwashing game for control of the rhetoric that attempts to justify the use of force as a means to collect taxes and manipulate thinking in such a way as to perpetuate deception; for more money; even though honesty is the policy.

    In real life; living and breathing, much larger than myself deputies of the sheriff in Indiana came to my house, no warrant, no complaint, no issue; I was painting a part of my house in preparation to sell the house and leave Indiana; I was sort of “run out” of the state; I knew too much and had too much seriously damaging evidence. The government gang had absolutely NOTHING to use against me that THEY had not created in order to defame my character and try to make me overreact. I walked up to the lines. The IRS had raked me over the coals three years in row and found they owed me for all three years. So they had to have revenge. This is a huge suppressed story that NO ONE in government wants exposed; the scam has been going on for decades; it is even advertised. A “fair” legal system would have attacked the Bill Clinton administration (the activity of subject was already in progress before he became president, but I wrote to him and made phone calls all the way up the chain of command; and sent mail as well; all the way up the chain; repeatedly; including to the FBI, DOJ, Inspector General, the tax court, the coast to coast media; on the internet; the response: “SHUT UP AND GO AWAY OR ALL OF YOUR EVIDENCE WILL VANISH!!!!” I was a one man meteor who was ready to crash land at any time; meaning; I am licensed to carry a gun, I have a few, one wrong move on your part and BOOM; wish I would have had time to put in ear plugs. SOME law enforcement people are CRAZY INSANE. I am harmless until pushed into a corner; of if it appears that I am pushed in any direction I do not want to travel. Anyway, the two cops who showed up, come strutting down my driveway, fully armed; YELLING my name!!!! I put the paint brush down, and walk towards them, asking “what can I do for you?” “oh,” they “were just in the area and thought they would stop by and see how” I “was doing.” The matter escalated quickly, I moved slowly, normally, non-threatening; I was told to “back off,” I told them they didn’t tell me where I could be on my property. They back peddled and put their hands on their guns and one said “we have the right to defend ourselves!” I frisked myself for them and kept walking, my Spouse was trembling. They left telling me to “have a nice day.” There are other similar episodes. I know too much and can explain what I know to those who can’t see their own behavior. Yes, it sounds weird sometimes alright. I remember all too well almost, the clarity in the air during the 1960’s and early 70’s; it was “getting high and carried away in the music.” The world today sure needs to get high and be carried away in the music; music; real music; the kind of music that; when you hear it a little loudly (not ear damaging), the MORE you hear it, the more you are likely to enjoy it; not lyrics, music. Not yelling words; that is not music. Thanks.

  • lovingc

    Once again how can the church get by breaking the law about electioneering from the pulpit? They should loose their exemption from churches being taxed. This has cropped up all over this election. This law should be strictly enforced. The sheep listen to the shepherd so the shepherd has to refrain from political statements.

  • JA

    I’m in AZ and I’ll VOTE NO on PROP 205!
    Reasons to vote no…
    1. No protection from Employers, you can be fired even if you use medical marijuana at home.

    2. No protection from Landlords, you can be evicted for using medical marijuana in the privacy of your own home.

    3. Felonies still apply for being over your limit, even by a single seed or stem.

    4. We get less medicine. They are taking a huge portion of our medicine away by limiting us to 1 oz. period. v 2.5 ounces every two weeks

    5. Not allowed to make concentrates and other items.

    6. Not allowed to share or give to other patients.

    7. Marijuana Police Task Force being created that can come into your home at any time and take your medicine and take you to jail and give you a felony and fines.

    8. Dispensaries will be the only ones allowed to own the new dispensaries, if they feel like it they can deny an application for a new dispensary just because they don’t like you, seriously.

    9. Our grow rights went from 12 plants to 6 plants AND cities and counties have the rights (and will immediately) deny us the right to grow our own medicine.

    10. we can only have 5mg of concentrates at any given time (sorry if you need more for your RSO capsules.)

    11. 23% tax on cannabis

    12. PLEASE READ FOR YOURSELVES…https://www.regulatemarijuanainarizona.org/full-initiative-text/

    HT 2 Tumbleweeds

  • Mr.&Mrs.F

    One of the most profane “things” I have seen and heard this entire year was just a few minutes ago when the clinton woman was barking and growling about how evil Mr. Trump is and how great she is and then I think that I have heard this person’s name and mouth flapping, lying, for the last 30 years and she shakes her hands and points and accuses everybody of being what she demonstrates herself to be and then she has the audacity to say, “God bless you.” That is profane.